Showing posts with label 9/11. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 9/11. Show all posts

Monday, February 8, 2010

President Obama - NYC for the terror trial location? "I haven't ruled it out"

The Super Bowl Interview:


KATIE COURIC Have you ruled out trying confessed 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Muhammad in New York City?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: I have not ruled it out, but I think it's important for us to take into account the practical, logistical issues involved. I mean, if you've got a city that is saying no, and a police department that's saying no, and a mayor that's saying no, that makes it difficult.


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Friday, February 5, 2010

Civic Center Residents Coalition and neighbors of the terror trial Moynihan Courthouse - send their message to Dept. Of Justice and President Obama - MOVE THESE TERROR TRIALS






Residents of Chinatown and the Civic Center in Lower Manhattan oppose being

"hard zone prisoners" if the terror trials move in NEXT DOOR.

On Friday February 5, 2010

over 50 residents of Chinatown and the Civic Center - next door neighbors of the U.S. Federal court house -- where the Department of Justice and Attorney General Eric Holder proposed to have the terrorist trials, protested loudly and declared "MOVE THESE TRIALS"

Geoff Lee (left) says "so long as placard parking exists we're unprotected, remember the white van at Times Square? That was left alone for two days because it had a fake placard, Chinatown is inundated with the same problem already".



9/11 Terror Trials Will Create War Zone in

Lower Manhattan


The Civic Center Residents Coalition believes the 9/11 terror trials should "not be held in anyone's backyard" - having lived through the post 9/11 street closures/lockdowns/checkpoints that thousands still live with today, residents rally to move the terror trials.

The decision to move dangerous 9/11 terrorists from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Worth Street for trial was not carefully thought out and lacked comprehensive evaluation of the logistics, failed to consult with local authorities and communities, vastly underestimated the security costs that could easily exceed $1 billion and overlooks the human toll on courthouse neighbors. Holding the terror trials in the city must be “taken off the table” immediately.

Political ideologues identify us as suffering from a case of “nimby (not in my back yard).” We suffer from “oimby” (only in my back yard). Since 2001 we are the only post 9/11 community in Manhattan still suffering from the “chokehold” of massive street shutdowns, security checkpoints, rerouting of traffic and bus routes, invasive government permit parking abuse requiring an NYPD internal affairs crackdown, takeaway of parks that were returnedonly after lawsuits, bomb sniffing dogs on our street corner and clanging barricades under our windows.
Patricia Tsia , executive representative of Lin Sing Association, 110 year old family organization with deep roots in the Chinatown community at 47 Mott street.

We are the only residential community now faced with having our neighborhood imprisoned behind a “hard” and “soft” security zone. Here are a few of the intensive security measures presented by Police Commissioner Kelly last week. Our streets and air space would be patrolled for years by:
Community Board 1 Marc Ameruso (right), co author of the original "move the trials to Govenor's Island" resolution.

  • ATLAS, Hercules, Special Operations, Armored Assault, Office of Emergency Management, and other armed, specialized security teams
  • 2000 metal barricades completely restricting vehicles and pedestrians from Chatham Square to Broadway on Worth
  • License plate readers for the entire soft zone,
  • Surveillance towers with 24/7 video of all citizens
  • Additional vehicle check points with DELTA barriers
  • Helicopters “aerial surveillance”
Vinnie Imbrosciano (right) - Chatham Towers resident, a neighbor of the court house where the terror trials will be held if the Dept. of Justice doesn't find a suitable alternate location.

For pedestrians inside the soft zone:
  • Random pat downs of anyone at any time (we assume this would include mourners/hearse/coffins of the three funeral homes across from the courthouse)
  • Random bag searches of anyone at any time (including backpacks of children attending after school programs across the street or playing in the one of the busiest playgrounds in Manhattan)
  • I.D check of anyone at any time
  • Radiation and bio-terrorism detection surveillance
  • Pop up check points for all three - pat down, ID check and bag search at different locations
  • Many signs to instruct GOVERNMENT workers where to enter the zone according to occupation and building of employment
  • Sharp shooters both Federal and NYPD located on government buildings and residential buildings throughout the two zones
  • Bomb sniffing dogs
  • "Conspicuous NYPD presence at all times"
Councilperson Margaret Chin - Coauthored a resolution to permanently remove the terror trials out of her district.

The true cost of the terror trials would be borne by tens of thousands of innocent Lower Manhattan residents and hundreds of small business and property owners who would risk living in an armed camp under rooftop sharpshooters. These are people who did not bow to terrorism and chose to stay after 9/11. Ironically we are now being accused of NOT BEING TOUGH enough to “show the world” the U.S. terror trials can be held here safely – How many years would we have to live in a war zone - three, four, five? Would that be justice for all of us who live in
Lower Manhattan?




Eric Holder: Terror Trials “Off the Table” in New York City!

Wednesday, November 18, 2009

From the Downtown Express newspaper - mixed reaction to the terrorist trials in Lower Manhattan



There is likely to be tighter security at places like Foley Square when defendants in the 9/11 terrorism case are moved to Lower Manhattan. Some of the suspects are expected to be held in the Metropolitan Correctional Center near Downtown’s federal courthouse.


Downtown people & pols mixed on hosting terror trials


Already-tight security measures will only get tighter when five accused 9/11 terrorists go on trial in Lower Manhattan.
The federal government announced last week that the likely death penalty trial would take place in Downtown’s federal court, just blocks from the World Trade Center site. The Police Dept. has not finalized security plans, but press reports predict more street closures for the neighborhood and a much bigger law enforcement presence.
Many local residents and workers said the trials would be an unwelcome intrusion upon a community that has not yet recovered from 9/11, and the terrorists should be brought to justice elsewhere.
“It’s just sheer lunacy,” said Danny Chen, who lives in Chatham Green. “The elected officials seem to have forgotten that we haven’t yet resolved the issue of just normal day-to-day after 9/11, and now they’re throwing this at us…. It’s hubris, it’s bravado, and it doesn’t serve any practical purpose.”
Chen is a member of the Civic Center Residents Coalition, a group that was named to remind people that the Civic Center does in fact have residents, not just courts and offices. Chen cited the post-9/11 Park Row closure, which put much of his apartment complex behind security barriers, as just one example of how the neighborhood is still “under lockdown.”
The actual impact of the trials on daily life in Lower Manhattan remains to be seen. The trials will take place in the federal courthouse at 500 Pearl St., which is named for former U.S. Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan. The defendantss, including Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, whom prosecutors say masterminded the attack, will likely be held in the high-security Metropolitan Correctional Center nearby. The streets around the M.C.C. which is across from police headquarters, are now closed to general traffic but open to pedestrians, while some of the streets adjacent to the nearby courthouse, including Worth St., are currently open to both cars and pedestrians.
The New York Post reported this week that the city would shut down additional streets around the courthouse, bring in additional U.S. Marshals and National Guardsmen and post snipers on rooftops.
Paul J. Browne, the N.Y.P.D.’s top spokesperson, said in an e-mail to Downtown Express that contrary to the Post story, “No plans for the trial have been detailed yet.” Browne denied the Post report that some subway entrances would close during the trial.
And Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, a Lower Manhattan resident, told NY1 Monday that he did not expect the trial to have a large impact on businesses or the community because Downtown already has so much security.
Still, the blocks around 500 Pearl St. will likely be subject to additional security measures. And while those measures may make the area safe, they could also make it unlivable, said John Fratta, chairperson of Community Board 1’s Seaport/Civic Center Committee.

“That’s totally unacceptable,” Fratta said of the decision to locate the trial Downtown. “That’s making us live in a war zone.”


C.B. 1 Chairperson Julie Menin has invited the N.Y.P.D. to public and private meetings to discuss their plans.
“We want to meet right away and get a sense of what this means for the neighborhood,” Menin said.
Menin, who supports holding the trial in New York and hopes to attend it, said she has heard from residents on both sides of the issue. In an essay for The Huffington Post, she argued that it is important for Mohammed and the other accused terrorists to receive a fair and open trial in the city, rather than go before a military tribunal, which would be less likely to convict them and would not shed light on the interrogation methods used, including waterboarding.
Not everyone agrees.

“I’d hang ’em right away,” said Larry Torto, 53, a Health Dept. worker who was sitting on a bench in Foley Square at lunchtime Monday. “These are war criminals and they should be treated as such. They should not be given the same status as American citizens. They should be tried by a military tribunal.”
A few benches over was Jim O’Donnell, a 64-year-old courts worker who agreed that bringing terrorists into New York is an unnecessary risk.

“I don’t want them near Lower Manhattan ever again,” O’Donnell said. “Just seeing what they did would make their day…. It’s like asking for something to happen.”
Jeanie Chin, a member of the Civic Center Residents Coalition, added that if President Obama and his family lived near the courts, he would never have placed the trial there.
“They’re putting us in the line of fire and they know it and they don’t care,” Chin said. “It’s making us mad as hell.”


However, Fern Howell, 61, a city marriage clerk, said it made sense to try the terrorists at the scene of their crime.
“If Ray Kelly says he’s got it under control, there should be no problem,” Howell said. “I’d sure like to be on the jury — it’d be a nice vacation.”
Since U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced the trial plans last Friday, city, state and federal politicians have been weighing in. Mayor Michael Bloomberg voiced his support, but former Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Gov. David Paterson both said the trials did not belong in the city, though for different reasons.
Giuliani argued that the appropriate place to try the accused terrorists is in a military tribunal, not civilian court, though in 2006 he had high praise for the civilian trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker.
Separately, Paterson said he was concerned about the impact of the trials on the local community, which suffered on 9/11 and afterward when the federal government said without evidence that the air was safe to breathe. Paterson said returning the terrorists to the site would be an “encumbrance” for New Yorkers.
Paterson was one of the few Democrats to publicly disagree with Obama’s decision. U.S. Rep. Jerrold Nadler, who represents Lower Manhattan, called the decision “fitting.” Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, a Downtowner, also said he supported Obama’s choice, though Judy Rapfogel, his chief of staff, said, “We couldn’t describe it as a good idea.” She said the speaker would work to protect the community from any adverse effects.


State Sen. Daniel Squadron, whose district includes Lower Manhattan, did not object to the venue of the trials but said in a statement that he did not want the proceedings to infringe on anyone’s security or quality of life.

Margaret Chin, a Democrat who will represent Downtown in the City Council starting Jan. 1, said she would prefer the trials were held somewhere else.

“The Lower Manhattan neighborhoods have been so stressed by all the security measures since 9/11 that this will cause more hardship for the residents and the businesses,” Chin said in a statement to Downtown Express.


Other residents and workers also said they were concerned for local businesses, but the manager of Albella Ristorante and Bar on Reade St. said he wasn’t worried.

“We’re hoping it’s going to drum up business,” said the manager, who did not give his name. Albella is used to major events, from the Madoff trial to the Yankees parade. “Usually we don’t suffer any because of that stuff.”
Julie@DowntownExpress.com